A ghost named Patrick... and the Chicago indie film scene

Writer/director/producer Andrea Zile Bish joins Ilse to talk birds, ghosts, and the Chicago indie scene. They cover creative burnout, ghost roommates, and why making art with your people is the real flex. Find out more about Bish at www.zilebish.com

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Ilse Will Say

Ilse Will Say is an EVERYTHING podcast with a core focus on the entertainment field. Expect Ilse’s takes on TV shows, pizza, nostalgia, bigfoot, butterbeer, the weird little S we all drew in middle school—literally everything. If it lives in your group chat, it lives here too.