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16th Sep 2025

You can lead the work...or keep waiting to be picked. Your choice.

Ilse sits down with writer–producer–multi-hyphenate Keiph Oliver for a conversation that’s equal parts business school, therapy, and creative pep talk.

They get into what it means to lead instead of chase, why filmmakers should stop gatekeeping their own work, and how YouTube might be a smarter move than Sundance.

Also in the mix: self-worth, faith, cold showers, equity over exposure, and why the Chicago film scene might be on the verge of something big.

If you’re a filmmaker, a creative, or just tired of asking permission to do what you love—this one’s for you.

✨ Follow Keiph on IG @justkeiph

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About the Podcast

Ilse Will Say
Ilse Will Say is an EVERYTHING podcast with a core focus on the entertainment field. Expect Ilse’s takes on TV shows, pizza, nostalgia, bigfoot, butterbeer, the weird little S we all drew in middle school—literally everything. If it lives in your group chat, it lives here too.